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Carnageand theJokerare often compared due to the fact they ’re the worst sequential sea wolf that Marvel and DC have to offer . However , despite some major similarities the two might have , Carnage indisputably proved himself to be worse in one major area . While the Joker has certainly tortured and twisted multiple therapists in his time , Carnage is the only one who drove a healer whole and utterly , violently insane .
The conclusion final result of Joker ’s handling of Harley Quinn was n’t nearly as bad as what Carnage did to Dr. Kurtz .
mass murder : Mind Bomb – save by Warren Ellis , with art by Kyle Hotz , Jon Babcock , Mike Higgins , and Marie Javins – featured Carnage ’s major achievement over the Joker , when the Ravencroft Institute brought in Dr. Kurtz , a highly skilled regime psychologist , to analyzeCletus Kasady .
The results of this endeavor prove disastrous – most notably , for Dr. Kurtz himself , who arguably suffered a fortune bad than death , as Kasady and the Carnage symbiote destroyed his mind entirely , seemingly leaving no Leslie Townes Hope of convalescence . This unbelievable second showcased that while Joker might consider therapists as toy , to be toyed with , Carnage hates them beyond comparison .
Carnage and the Joker are two of the most deadly serial killers to ever exist , and now it seems Carnage is pick up a object lesson from the Joker .
Carnage Drives Dr. Kurtz Violently Insane
As depicted inCarnage : Mind Bomb , the doctors of Ravencroft were at their witticism ’s closing with Kasady ; they see there was no impairment in letting political science psychologist Dr. Kurtz attempt . Kurtz was surprisingly effective at first , manage to severalize the Carnage symbiote from Kasady , as well as contend to get Kasady to open up and utter about his life and childhood . thing seemingly operate well until Kasady turn the tables , rejoin with theCarnage symbiote – and literally pumping his worldview into Kurtz ’s mastermind . Carnage shared his deadly outlook on life with Dr. Kurtz , literally , labor Kurtz insane as a result .
The most ill-famed example of the Joker motor a therapist out of their mind is , without a doubt , Harley Quinn . However , there ’s a conflict betweenwhat the Joker did to Harleyand what Carnage did to Dr. Kurtz . Harley Quinn was already a bit of a fan of the Joker , and he portrayed himself as a dupe – of both Batman and club at great – which conduct her to empathise with him . Because of this , the Joker was able to manipulate Harley , finally driving her over the edge ; yet , Harley was n’t completely lost . She still knew who she was , and eventually was capable to separate free from Joker ’s control .
Dr. Kurtz Didn’t Get A Shot A Redemption
The ending outcome of Joker ’s manipulation of Harley Quinn was n’t nearly as bad as what Carnage did to Dr. Kurtz . Using the Carnage symbiote , Cletus was capable to plug himself directly into Dr. Kurtz ’s brain , press his worldview into Kurtz ’s brain , literally showing Kurtz how Carnage views the world . This drove Kurtz straight off and irreversibly harebrained . Kurtz immediately strip naked and began attacking people at random . Ultimately , Kurtz was shot and killed by surety at Ravencroft because of what Carnage did to him , making it vindicated his suffering at Carnage ’s manus was far big than what the Joker did to Harley Quinn .
No matter how mess up Harley Quinn became , she was eventually able to rediscover herself and make a fairly full recovery . Despite the damage done to her , the only reason Harley got as mess up as she did was because Joker dwell to and fudge her . mass murder did no such thing . butchery picture Dr. Kurtz a whole true feeling into how he sees the existence , and that was what drove Kurtz all insane , lead to his untimely and unfortunate death . This is why when it come to their several treatment of therapists , Marvel’sCarnagehas proved far sorry than DC Comics’Joker .
Carnage : Mind Bombwas released in 1996 . It is available now from Marvel Comics !
